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[Validicus]

What sort of system(s) are you using in your current save? What type of shape(s)? Does it rely on certain players in order to be effective, if so, which players and what do they offer that's so important to you? If you have more than one system, under what circumstances do you use your alternative(s)?

[Game]

I'm mostly swapping between 4-1-2-2-1, 3-2-1-2-2 and 4-1-1-1-3. Currently due to injuries I've been forced to use 4-2-2-2 (which has been surprisingly effective given my lack of players). I wouldn't say I was reliant on any player in particular, but the forwards do need to take more chances (as they miss far too many of the ones we create for them).

At the moment I'm playing without a lot of players because I have so many injuries, so as a result I currently find myself reliant on everyone who's not injured to be fit enough for the next game

[Hooligan Polygon]

I mostly prefer 4-1-2-3 with three strikers; one deep-lying support, one complete attack and one poacher. I don't recommend this formation to anybody unless you have a squad with full of pacey players though.

The other formations I use, are asymmetric 4-2-2-2, 1-4-3-2 (with sweeper) and 5-2-3 very similar to the one in BlueAngel's Barça analyse but I only use them due to number of injured players.

[Michael]

4-4-2.

Want to try out some sort of 4-2-1-2-1/3-3-1-2-1 however, the 4-4-2 is doing what it should and getting results at the moment.

[Amadou]

A 4-1-2-1-2 that can change in certain situations to a 4-3-3, the AMC advancing to a striker position, or a 4-2-2-2. It's working fantastically right now.

[Validicus]

Remember though that the 4-3-3 is never really 3 out-and-out strikers / 3 strikers in the box awaiting the ball. In truth, the front three of a diamond variant only ever behave similarly to a 4-3-3 when one of its strikers finds space out-wide wide and the AMC then gets forward to position himself alongside the other striker - very closely resembling the situation where when one of the wingers of a 4-3-3 is attacking from out-wide, and the other winger drifts inward into the box alongside the striker. Edit: Here's a decent enough video about the 4-3-3 which provides a visual about that movement of the front three which I describe. http://www.uefa.com/...id=1526919.html

On topic: I loaded up FM11 for the first time in months, so I'll soon be able to post what I'm messing around with once I've decide what type of save I want to start.

Edited by Validicus, 26 July 2011 - 09:01 PM.

[Game]

3 strikers up top worked really well for me (until two of them got injured).

[DeanoWHUFC]

I am currently using a mix between 4-3-3/4-5-1/4-2-3-1, it's hard to explain in words so here is a shit diagam.

GK

DR DC DC DL

DMC DMC

MC

AMR------------AML

ST

Used it with Tottenham for a season, won the Europa league, got to the final of the FA Cup and due to my poor management lost out on 4th in the league last two games. Conceded 2nd least goals in the league however due to the defensive nature of the set up I scored very few too, still didn't stop me beating Juve 4-0 in Italy.

One thing I did notice whilst using it, the defensive midfielder role on a support strategy can be brutal going forward and helpful at the back. I had Cabaye and Huddlestone there and the number of attacks they launched from that deep role was ridiculous. It didn't help they were launching attacks only to end up with a 17 year old striker though.

Edited by DeanoWHUFC, 26 July 2011 - 08:36 PM.

[DeanoWHUFC]

What's up with the spacing? It appears I hit enter way too many times. O.o

[Game]

That is indeed a shit diagram.

[DeanoWHUFC]

Game, on 26 July 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:

That is indeed a shit diagram.

You get the point, that's all it needed to do.

[Validicus]

Hammy, FFS, use This11.com or something.

Edited by Validicus, 26 July 2011 - 08:45 PM.

[nakS]

HI Vali,

Mostly playing with a flat 442 in Spain with Atletico. Though it behaves more like a 4231 because my offensive play is based on depth. Left ST dropping deep (ppm and RFD rarely), Right ST trying to beat the offside trap (ppm and RDF mixed) , one wingback on the left side, a marauding left winger/ST(RDF often) and a right wing playmaker/winger (RFD mixed). All these players are provided with a pair of a deep conservative CM and a more creative/passe deep CM (both RDF rarely) . Here is a quick diagram meant to represent movement, mentality and creative freedom. BTW, all of this is made with TC, I only tinker with non numerical instructions

[maverick]

I am currently trying to perfect a Ajax 95 tactic, which looks like this.



I know there are a few people that don't like touching 3 at the back, and especially wont like this with no fullbacks/wing backs or even wide midfielders.

Ajax lined up like this in the 95 champions cup final.

This makes this a little hard on FM for a few reasons.

1) Hard to find sweepers, as it seems to be a dying breed.
2) The two central midfielders need to have good stamina and work rate as they need to get forward to support, as well as track back the oppositions wingers when they have possession.

3) The attacking midfielder needs to drop in to the central midfielder gap when defending, which is difficult as the me code in the game does not allow this all the time.

So this leaves my to wingers and my lone striker to be the main strike force.

[Natagora]

Pure dirt.

[TuNdRaLoWeR]

4-1-2-1-2'll be 4eva

[Sears]

4-3-3

[Natagora]

2-2-2-3-1

FO SHO

[Tony Giggidy2187]

4-2-3-1 for me every time, 2 CMs, one as a ball winner, the other deep lying playmaker, LAM as inside forward, CAM as attacking midfielder RAM as advanced playmaker and ST to suit either Donovan, Lukaku or Saha

[Joaquin Bibi]

I'm currently experimenting with a 4-2-2-2, with my inspiration coming from the Barcelona vs. Porto Super Cup game. Barcelona created a box around Porto's midfield, Xavi playing deeper whilst Iniesta was level with Messi. This outnumbered the Porto midfield quite easily, and with Xavi sitting deeper, the defence didn't have to be as cautious as usual. Pedro & Villa were both playing as inside-forwards, making lots of diagonal runs, whilst Iniesta's movement in the opposite direction to Messi caused lots of gaps. Going pretty well.

Training Masch & Busquets to centre-backs too so I can play the 3-4-3/3-5-2 with total possession control.